Saturday, December 15, 2012

Phone meeting on Pakistan and drones





Leah Bolger, President of Veterans for Peace talked about her trip to Pakistan to investigate drone bombings.

This phone/internet meeting was on 12-12-12.
 
Pakistani Opinion & Politics
*75% say US is the enemy
*Pakistanis do see the difference between Americans and their government, and Leah’s group was always treated warmly

Information on drones from Stanford and Investigative Bureau of Journalists.

She showed short film from Brave New Films (no sound though). I believe it is the film above, but I am not certain.

Pashtun Culture – covers Afghanistan and Pakistan, but they do not recognize the border.  They follow communal living and believe in hospitality (will defend guests with own lives) and revenge. Women are very private and did not talk to this delegation. Problems solved by jergas (sp?)– a group meeting.

Obama targets based on “signature strikes” meaning that the act or dress or live in the area of what they consider a “proper target” which means a military aged male for the most part.  GPS chips are used to target specific people.  US will name a terrorist killed, sometimes multiple times, with no verification. 

She talked about how the drone strikes impacted the people on the ground.  They are under threat of drone attacks 24/7.  It is making people suicidal.  Children are afraid to go to school. Changed cultural norms – weddings used to be large, but now they are afraid of large gatherings. Same for funerals, since they are targeted by drones. People are afraid to meet in groups. People are relocating, or sending their children to live elsewhere. 

There is no compensation for injuries, loss of income, or property damage.  Often times, there is no medical care available.

They had 3 meetings with tribal leaders and victims of the drone bombings. There are in rural areas and communication is difficult.  Pakistani army is complicit in keeping things secret. They do not even release the names of the women who were injured or killed, because of cultural norms and privacy issues.  There is no record keeping of births, deaths, etc. No pictures of women either.  One man showed a scrap of dress to show his wife was killed. 

Leah had a video on their journey in Pakistan, but did not sho it.  She will post to V4P website. The Pakistani politician they traveled with was very popular and people greeted them everywhere. Then she talked about legal issues, like UN Charter, Geneva Conventions and US Constitution. The drone strikes violate sovereignty.  There is no transparency or accountability since it is CIA and classified. No evidence or charges are presented; there is no positive identification and no chance to surrender.  “Double tap” means they go after first responders – a flagrant violation of international law. 

These are extrajudicial assassinations.

They had 2 meetings with Ambassador Hoagland for Pakistan. In first meeting, he guaranteed the convoy would not be a target of a drone strike. Leah suggested that they would position Americans around Pakistan to stop the drone strikes, to protect the Pakistanis.  He claimed that civilian casualties are in “two digits”. Leah said they are over 3,000.  They discussed “double tap” and compensation for injuries or damage.  Ambassador thought compensation would be good, but is not possible.  Also told him about Stanford Report, but he did not read it before second meeting (after the convoy into Warzirastan).  He has not met with any victims and denies applicability of international laws on drones at this time. He denied that visibility or audibility of drones and denied the veracity of photos and stories. He seemed to be indifferent to their reports. Leah found the indifference to be very upsetting. He took no notes and asked few questions. Hoagland claimed that there are no strikes when women and children are present. He was offended to their talk about Obama’s “kill list”. 

What we can do:  educate yourself and others
Join anti-drone organization
Get a drone replica – wheel into farmer’s market and have a die-in (a participant said they took their drone replica to a UN meeting and in front of capital building in Madison WI)
Protest outside of drone bases or drone manufacturers
Host a speaker in your town – the whole team of folks are available
Lobby and pressure Congress

Some websites:

Code Pink is hiring a full time person to keep on top of drones. 

April 6 – National No Drones Day
San Diego Chapter of VFP is hosting DroneDiego and they hope to make this a series of international days of actions from April 4 to 7.  Dave Patterson is heading this action. There is also a VFP drone working group. 

Same presentation next Wednesday evening!

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